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coba perhatikan pada gambar Motard dari North South Wales Supermoto Rider Club ........ ada Slipper Clutch for Back It In? ....... ini berpengaruh sangat besar pada tenaga mesin yg dihasilkan utk mendapat tingkat RPM yg dibutuhkan saat sliding.Harganya bisa sampai 15 juta ....... ..... mutlaak hrs adaga jadi sliding aaaaahh
Kenyataannya emang susah bener... klo dalam kondisi motor sekarang, saat gir 4th-->1st, ban blkg akan spin tp tetep muter, traksinya msh enak. Tp motor biasanya ga mau digas.Dan yg pasti, klo sistem nurunin gir ini, ban jadi jauh lbh cepet abis dibandingin ngepot pke rem belakang. *Pengalaman pribadi tanpa instruktur.Buat hindari highside, pas lagi sliding. Coba dh... klo sidingnya :1. Belok kiri...Buntutnya ke kanan, motornya rebahin ke kiri. Setidaknya klo jatoh lowside. Ga bgtu sakit. :hammer...2. Belok ke kanan.Buntutnya ke kiri. Motornya rebahin ke kanan. Tapi ini biasanya lbh makan banyak korban krn rem blkg ga kepegang. Hehehe....
kali back it in pas masuk tikungan biasanya cuma pake engine brake..seperti yg d bilang indra dari 4th gear -> 2nd or 1st gear aja,sisanya tinggal ngendaliin arahnya, karena ban belakang masih muter trus juga ga terlalu susah buat ngendaliin...kalo pake rem belakang ra wani,karna itu ban udah ngonci jadi agak" gelosor banget, mirip orang ngerem mendadak pasti ga bisa d kendaliin..kalo ngedrift keluar luntasan sehabis belok blom bisa,karna mesinnya juga ga kuaattt...secara mesin macan doang..
Nah itu dia......Bisa jelasin kang bedanya slipper clutch ama kopling biasa?trus maksudnya "late breaking"......gmna sih?yuk sharing disini !!QuoteLate breaking = pengereman disaat akhir, seblm msk tikungan = sengaja telat ngeremIni copast dari Wikipedia ttg Slipper Clutch, semoga bermanfaat .......A slipper clutch (also known as a slider clutch or back-torque limiter) is a specialized clutch developed for performance oriented motorcycles to mitigate the effects of engine braking when riders decelerate as they enter corners.They are designed to partially disengage or "slip" when the rear wheel tries to drive the engine faster than it would run under its own power. The engine braking forces in conventional clutches will normally be transmitted back along the drive chain causing the rear wheel to hop, chatter or lose traction. This is especially noted on larger displacement four-stroke engines, which have greater engine braking than their two-stroke or smaller displacement counterparts. Slipper clutches eliminate this extra loading on the rear suspension giving riders a more predictable ride and minimize the risk of over-reving the engine during downshifts. Slipper clutches can also prevent a catastrophic rear wheel lockup in case of engine seizure or transmission failure. Generally, the amount of force needed to disengage the clutch is adjustable to suit the application.Slipper clutches have been used in most high displacement four stroke racing motorcycles since the early 1980s. Slipper clutches were introduced in the 1970s by John Gregory and TC Christenson on "Hogslayer" the most successful drag racing motorcycle of the 1970s. Made of bronze sintered plates from an earthmover and a Rambler 2 speed transmission, the drivetrain let TC reach 180 mph in the quarter mile. Slipper clutches are used on many current sport bikes.Slipper clutches have also been used to a lesser extent on automobiles, primarily those powered by motorcycle engines. They can also be found on racing remote control cars. Some experimental aircraft use a slipper clutch to protect the engine from shock in the event of a propeller strike. A slipper clutch for an automobile was patented with a French priority date of 1953 to J.Maurice ETAL [US patent 3072234.] The principle of this slipper clutch was exactly the same as found in modern motorcyclesOne-way sprag clutches have also been used for the same purpose, but are generally not adjustable for disengagement force. Early Honda Shadow models used a design wherein a sprag clutch is connected to just half of the clutch friction plates, allowing the clutch to slip during heavy backloading sufficiently to prevent rear-wheel lockup, while still allowing moderate engine compression braking with the remaining friction plates.
Late breaking = pengereman disaat akhir, seblm msk tikungan = sengaja telat ngeremIni copast dari Wikipedia ttg Slipper Clutch, semoga bermanfaat .......A slipper clutch (also known as a slider clutch or back-torque limiter) is a specialized clutch developed for performance oriented motorcycles to mitigate the effects of engine braking when riders decelerate as they enter corners.They are designed to partially disengage or "slip" when the rear wheel tries to drive the engine faster than it would run under its own power. The engine braking forces in conventional clutches will normally be transmitted back along the drive chain causing the rear wheel to hop, chatter or lose traction. This is especially noted on larger displacement four-stroke engines, which have greater engine braking than their two-stroke or smaller displacement counterparts. Slipper clutches eliminate this extra loading on the rear suspension giving riders a more predictable ride and minimize the risk of over-reving the engine during downshifts. Slipper clutches can also prevent a catastrophic rear wheel lockup in case of engine seizure or transmission failure. Generally, the amount of force needed to disengage the clutch is adjustable to suit the application.Slipper clutches have been used in most high displacement four stroke racing motorcycles since the early 1980s. Slipper clutches were introduced in the 1970s by John Gregory and TC Christenson on "Hogslayer" the most successful drag racing motorcycle of the 1970s. Made of bronze sintered plates from an earthmover and a Rambler 2 speed transmission, the drivetrain let TC reach 180 mph in the quarter mile. Slipper clutches are used on many current sport bikes.Slipper clutches have also been used to a lesser extent on automobiles, primarily those powered by motorcycle engines. They can also be found on racing remote control cars. Some experimental aircraft use a slipper clutch to protect the engine from shock in the event of a propeller strike. A slipper clutch for an automobile was patented with a French priority date of 1953 to J.Maurice ETAL [US patent 3072234.] The principle of this slipper clutch was exactly the same as found in modern motorcyclesOne-way sprag clutches have also been used for the same purpose, but are generally not adjustable for disengagement force. Early Honda Shadow models used a design wherein a sprag clutch is connected to just half of the clutch friction plates, allowing the clutch to slip during heavy backloading sufficiently to prevent rear-wheel lockup, while still allowing moderate engine compression braking with the remaining friction plates.
Quote from: Indrajati90 on January 09, 2012, 08:23:04 AMKenyataannya emang susah bener... klo dalam kondisi motor sekarang, saat gir 4th-->1st, ban blkg akan spin tp tetep muter, traksinya msh enak. Tp motor biasanya ga mau digas.Dan yg pasti, klo sistem nurunin gir ini, ban jadi jauh lbh cepet abis dibandingin ngepot pke rem belakang. *Pengalaman pribadi tanpa instruktur.Buat hindari highside, pas lagi sliding. Coba dh... klo sidingnya :1. Belok kiri...Buntutnya ke kanan, motornya rebahin ke kiri. Setidaknya klo jatoh lowside. Ga bgtu sakit. :hammer...2. Belok ke kanan.Buntutnya ke kiri. Motornya rebahin ke kanan. Tapi ini biasanya lbh makan banyak korban krn rem blkg ga kepegang. Hehehe....nice practice dra...... Lebih enak klo latihan nya di LANUD kali ya
Quote from: astors on January 10, 2012, 10:09:54 AMkali back it in pas masuk tikungan biasanya cuma pake engine brake..seperti yg d bilang indra dari 4th gear -> 2nd or 1st gear aja,sisanya tinggal ngendaliin arahnya, karena ban belakang masih muter trus juga ga terlalu susah buat ngendaliin...kalo pake rem belakang ra wani,karna itu ban udah ngonci jadi agak" gelosor banget, mirip orang ngerem mendadak pasti ga bisa d kendaliin..kalo ngedrift keluar luntasan sehabis belok blom bisa,karna mesinnya juga ga kuaattt...secara mesin macan doang..Klo pke rem belakang, lepas rem.. Lgsg nendang balik motornya... Klo engine brake, lbh enak n smooth.Disarankan pke helm yg kedap yah. KLo ga pgin denger mesin ngegerung kenceng banget... Hehehehe..
QuoteNah itu dia......Bisa jelasin kang bedanya slipper clutch ama kopling biasa?trus maksudnya "late breaking"......gmna sih?yuk sharing disini !!QuoteLate breaking = pengereman disaat akhir, seblm msk tikungan = sengaja telat ngeremIni copast dari Wikipedia ttg Slipper Clutch, semoga bermanfaat .......A slipper clutch (also known as a slider clutch or back-torque limiter) is a specialized clutch developed for performance oriented motorcycles to mitigate the effects of engine braking when riders decelerate as they enter corners.They are designed to partially disengage or "slip" when the rear wheel tries to drive the engine faster than it would run under its own power. The engine braking forces in conventional clutches will normally be transmitted back along the drive chain causing the rear wheel to hop, chatter or lose traction. This is especially noted on larger displacement four-stroke engines, which have greater engine braking than their two-stroke or smaller displacement counterparts. Slipper clutches eliminate this extra loading on the rear suspension giving riders a more predictable ride and minimize the risk of over-reving the engine during downshifts. Slipper clutches can also prevent a catastrophic rear wheel lockup in case of engine seizure or transmission failure. Generally, the amount of force needed to disengage the clutch is adjustable to suit the application.Slipper clutches have been used in most high displacement four stroke racing motorcycles since the early 1980s. Slipper clutches were introduced in the 1970s by John Gregory and TC Christenson on "Hogslayer" the most successful drag racing motorcycle of the 1970s. Made of bronze sintered plates from an earthmover and a Rambler 2 speed transmission, the drivetrain let TC reach 180 mph in the quarter mile. Slipper clutches are used on many current sport bikes.Slipper clutches have also been used to a lesser extent on automobiles, primarily those powered by motorcycle engines. They can also be found on racing remote control cars. Some experimental aircraft use a slipper clutch to protect the engine from shock in the event of a propeller strike. A slipper clutch for an automobile was patented with a French priority date of 1953 to J.Maurice ETAL [US patent 3072234.] The principle of this slipper clutch was exactly the same as found in modern motorcyclesOne-way sprag clutches have also been used for the same purpose, but are generally not adjustable for disengagement force. Early Honda Shadow models used a design wherein a sprag clutch is connected to just half of the clutch friction plates, allowing the clutch to slip during heavy backloading sufficiently to prevent rear-wheel lockup, while still allowing moderate engine compression braking with the remaining friction plates.thanks penjelasannya kang....
Nah itu dia......Bisa jelasin kang bedanya slipper clutch ama kopling biasa?trus maksudnya "late breaking"......gmna sih?yuk sharing disini !!QuoteLate breaking = pengereman disaat akhir, seblm msk tikungan = sengaja telat ngeremIni copast dari Wikipedia ttg Slipper Clutch, semoga bermanfaat .......A slipper clutch (also known as a slider clutch or back-torque limiter) is a specialized clutch developed for performance oriented motorcycles to mitigate the effects of engine braking when riders decelerate as they enter corners.They are designed to partially disengage or "slip" when the rear wheel tries to drive the engine faster than it would run under its own power. The engine braking forces in conventional clutches will normally be transmitted back along the drive chain causing the rear wheel to hop, chatter or lose traction. This is especially noted on larger displacement four-stroke engines, which have greater engine braking than their two-stroke or smaller displacement counterparts. Slipper clutches eliminate this extra loading on the rear suspension giving riders a more predictable ride and minimize the risk of over-reving the engine during downshifts. Slipper clutches can also prevent a catastrophic rear wheel lockup in case of engine seizure or transmission failure. Generally, the amount of force needed to disengage the clutch is adjustable to suit the application.Slipper clutches have been used in most high displacement four stroke racing motorcycles since the early 1980s. Slipper clutches were introduced in the 1970s by John Gregory and TC Christenson on "Hogslayer" the most successful drag racing motorcycle of the 1970s. Made of bronze sintered plates from an earthmover and a Rambler 2 speed transmission, the drivetrain let TC reach 180 mph in the quarter mile. Slipper clutches are used on many current sport bikes.Slipper clutches have also been used to a lesser extent on automobiles, primarily those powered by motorcycle engines. They can also be found on racing remote control cars. Some experimental aircraft use a slipper clutch to protect the engine from shock in the event of a propeller strike. A slipper clutch for an automobile was patented with a French priority date of 1953 to J.Maurice ETAL [US patent 3072234.] The principle of this slipper clutch was exactly the same as found in modern motorcyclesOne-way sprag clutches have also been used for the same purpose, but are generally not adjustable for disengagement force. Early Honda Shadow models used a design wherein a sprag clutch is connected to just half of the clutch friction plates, allowing the clutch to slip during heavy backloading sufficiently to prevent rear-wheel lockup, while still allowing moderate engine compression braking with the remaining friction plates.thanks penjelasannya kang....
bahasa indonesia nya :jd di fungsi kopling pada dasar nya memberi jeda transfer tenaga dari kruk as ke gigi ratio. yg ada di as rumah kopling ama mangkuk rumah kopling yg kita kontrol di lever kopling.klo kita lepas kopling, berarti as berada di posisi awal. tp klo kita tarik tuas kopling, as rumah kopling bergerak menekan per-per yg ad di rumah kopling, akibat nya tenaga dari kruk as di buang ke piringan di rumah kopling.semakin besar HP yg dihasil kan kruk as, semakin berat kerja rumah kopling. nah, OOT dikit, yg sering terjadi aus kopling itu karena per yg kurang keras. biasanya terjadi ama motor yg di bore up/stroke up tanpa memperhatikan sisi kekuatan per koplinglogika nya ketika tenaga besar itu di tahan di rumah kopling, klo per nya ga kuat nahan, otomatis kampas kopling ikut muter dong, lama kelamaan si kampas kalah n muncul lah gejala selip kopling.back to sliperry clutch, liat dulu yu fisik nya kaya gimana *nyomot mbah googlekopling biasa :sliperry clutch : (cek dulu kesini : http://hardracing.com/STM.htm )ada foto :lihat foto ke 3, ada ball bearing.nah, ide sliperry clutch itu gara2 sering rompal / aus nya gigi2 di rumah kopling/cepat aus nya kampas kopling. akibat nya simpel, tenaga yg terlalu besar dari kruk as ke gigi ratio - roda belakang atau sebaliknya.ide awal nya nemu dari mesin RC. yap remote control.awalnya simpel, karena si RC itu sering jumping, gigi2 nya rompal gara2 ban over spin pas di udara, pas mendarat si roda nyentuh tanah n ngerusak gigi2 transfer power nya.akhirnya muncul ide nyimpen "sesuatu" di antara as rumah kopling n plat2 di rumah kopling."sesuatu" itu pake ball bearing. yang berfungsi di saat tekanan di rumah kopling terlalu tinggi, dia bantu putaran rumah kopling nya biar lebih smooth, ga nyentak2.jadi pas tenaga yg diterima rumah kopling melonjak drastis, bearing2 ball nya bekerja.simpelnya, mirip kaya sistem kerja CVT di motor matic, roller2 CVT naik karena RPM kruk as naik. tapi kita ga akan bahas motor matic disini toh? hehehehemudah2an membantu.....yg penting klo sliperry clutch msh terlalu mahal, pake yg standar2 aja, kan kata yg ahli oge : prektis mek perfek *sunda pisanmohon di koreksi bila salah, namanya juga masih belajar, motor sumo aja belom punya... boro2 praktek, semua masih serba teori wkwkwkwkwk
Quote from: Indrajati90 on January 10, 2012, 09:18:03 PMQuote from: astors on January 10, 2012, 10:09:54 AMkali back it in pas masuk tikungan biasanya cuma pake engine brake..seperti yg d bilang indra dari 4th gear -> 2nd or 1st gear aja,sisanya tinggal ngendaliin arahnya, karena ban belakang masih muter trus juga ga terlalu susah buat ngendaliin...kalo pake rem belakang ra wani,karna itu ban udah ngonci jadi agak" gelosor banget, mirip orang ngerem mendadak pasti ga bisa d kendaliin..kalo ngedrift keluar luntasan sehabis belok blom bisa,karna mesinnya juga ga kuaattt...secara mesin macan doang..Klo pke rem belakang, lepas rem.. Lgsg nendang balik motornya... Klo engine brake, lbh enak n smooth.Disarankan pke helm yg kedap yah. KLo ga pgin denger mesin ngegerung kenceng banget... Hehehehe..efeknya rante kendor, rante keteng kendor, ujung"nya jajan lagi..hahaha
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